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April 28, 2008

Austria Produces New World Record in Human Depravity

Here's the gist of it: 73-year old man confesses to kidnapping, locking up, and sexually molesting her daughter for 24 years (since age 11), and fathering seven children with her in that time. For a final touch, he incinerated one child's corpse after he died in the same cramped cellar where he held them for 24 years, and adopted 3 of the 6 children in the course of events to live above ground. Wife and adopted kids never had a clue.

Read this atrocious story here, or just turn on your TV and go to any news Network channel.

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What a creep. This situation reminds me of Plato's "Allegory of the Cave." I also wonder why he has been so forthcoming in confessing to the authorities? A strange type of love and care for his "children?" Old age? Guilty conscience? Crazy.

I would like to see this man burned at a stake. Where has god been for the past 24 years that such horrific monstrous abuse could go on? While this man is successful financially and respected in his community, he rapes and beats his daugther, imprisons her, has children by her, imprisions some of them? Where has God been?

WEll, remember that this is a country that likes to separate itself from the horrors of the Holocaust even though Austrians are as guilty as the Poles and the Germans for putting millions to death. Hitler was Austrian and before he left Austria for Germany, he had plenty of "teachers" of hate. This country even had a former Nazi as their President!! This man should be gassed and burned. His wife should be too -- she didn't know? -- sounds like the "I was just following orders" excuse.....

Monster.
Death is far too good for some people.
Let him rot for the rest of his misbegotten life without ever seeing daylight again...

Perhaps the best argument for retaining the death penalty.

This man is barely human and does not deserve to live.

Marianne:

Where has God been?

Need you further proof that there isn't a god?

Did he do this to punish the girl and the kids conceived from her father for some reason? Did the girl not pray hard enough or offer up enough sacrifices?

Did he do it to make the father think about his wicked ways? Over and over and over for 24 years?

Does he have a plan that now kicks into effect that will stop the next incestuous grandfather from imprisoning his daughter in the basement and impregnating her multiple times?

How about "no." There is no god (see Rwanda, the tsunami victims, the Jews, and American Idol) and he can't help you or anyone since he isn't there.

"WEll, remember that this is a country that likes to separate itself from the horrors of the Holocaust even though Austrians are as guilty as the Poles and the Germans for putting millions to death."

I would like to inform you that this creep is Jewish, http://i.l.cnn.net/cnn/2008/WORLD/europe/04/28/austria.cellar/art.cellar.gi.jpg

Notice the Star of David on the wall

While this is an extremely disturbing story, I'm really surprised that a university blog would not check facts before writing about it. The woman was imprisoned at age 18, not age 11. Every news article I have read on this subject says she was 18, so I don't know where you got age 11.

It's not God, it's that old Lucifer fella, trying to make God look bad. He slithers in through the smallest cracks and creates abominations. GOOD WINS OUT IN THE END. God will win out in the end. God just wants the world to see how evil things can get with Lucifer on the loose. Unfortunate for those who do not understand the cause of suffering. One day everyone will understand it.

Great, now my comment is going to be lumped in the same bin as the rest of them. Sigh. Back to work.

Just wanted to make a quick note. Being in Austria, this "cellar" actually looks like it may possibly have been built to hide individuals from the Nazis at one point in time. Wonder how many more there are?

The age 11 part comes from the fact that she began to be molested at the age 11. She was not imprisoned until 18.

Sure, let's blame all Austrians for the actions of one man, or two if you're going to bring up the story of last year. What a lovely generalization made by a law school faculty member. I guess it would be a perfectly legitimate argument to say that every Nigerian is responsible for what is going on in the Niger Delta?

Corsair,
I really despise people that believe themselves to be so smart as to have conclusively decided there is not and cannot be a God, simply because of your own hubris at becoming Supreme Being in the universe that you know. Personally, I'd love to see you get in a steel cage match with the fundamendalist bigots who proclaim that ONLY their way will lead you to salvation, as they fleece their flocks. God knows no religion. And Like Lenny Bruce, I'm encouraged to see people rejecting their temples (insert church, mosques, synogogues, name your faith) if they are so intolerant and going back to God. If you look at the world around you and see only the man- made ugliness and stupidity and are blind to the love and blessings He has given us, yours is a pitifully empty and shallow existence, indeed. Real faith in God is not a crutch, an excuse, an abdication of your power to change things for the better, or a placebo to make you a happy zombie. It's an acknowledgment. Don't scoff at others who embrace that message.

Whoops, sorry Corsair. That was actually directed at J, who wrote the post ABOVE yours. My sincere apologies.
J, start thinking for yourself. You have swallowed the dumbass "There can't be any God when all this bad stuff happens" argument.
We get free will- that's when we can abase ourselves in defiance of what we know is right. That's when people start blaming God (or denying His existence) and not the real culprits- themselves.

This story has nothing to do with god from the blogs I read people say where was god At.That Austrian Is just a sick person well words cant describe what he is they should throw him in a cell with no light and leave him there. I have never heard of a story like this its just disturbing they should treat him like. He treated them!!!

hmmmmmmm, the way these break across the page, I may have been correct in the first instance...

Horrific to the core! I can't even imagine what this woman must have felt emotionally when she was just a little child while this evil bastard was taking advantage of her. She had to have been crying and scared to death in pain and for years. Why don't those pervs and freaks think that children have feelings and emotions that come hand and hand with a memory of what happened to them? And why do those bastards have a right to take control and abuse a little innocent child? Probably the first time in my life where I wouldn't have any trouble pushing a button.

Wasn't Hitler a Jew? Just asking since some have thought this to be a nice segway or moronic tangent. I like the god doesn't exist argument. I don't think I ever believed there was a god but after this I won't even waste my breath in argument. Maybe some off the wall jesus freak will defend it all with some karl rovian spin and say god found them. Not even a nice try.

It amazes me how humanity can become sicker and sicker. From the emotionally unstable shootings to the creepy nice neighbor raising a family (with his daughter) in his cellar for 24 years.

Twenty four years?!? That man deserves to be castrated by a pit bull in public and cauterized within an hour after the pit bull devours his genitals, then put in a cell with some of the biggest ugliest prison cell mates (like the ones we make here in the US) and each allowed to have their way with him daily. And give him a cell where he can see the outside world while bent over his new bed post.

Remember there is no god so what matters is that justice is served and there's no better way to serve justice than to give the guilty party a taste of his own medicine.

I could just cry for poor Elisabeth and her 6 children. How in the world is she ever going to heal? How are the poor kids ever going to be able to come to grips with the fact that their "father"(may he rot in perpetual hell) is actually their grandfather? This monster of a man has ruined generations of people's lives. He deserves the worst of torture at the hands of Hitler himself.

Okay, for the record, here are some clarifications for those who misunderstood my post. Specifically:

Silentounce: I did not in any way imply this was the fault of Austria as a nation. I don't know where you got that from. The title of the post is merely a reference to a location, okay. Same way you'd say "Nigeria Produces Another Tyrant".

SB: About the age 11 or 18 thing, see Bryan's response to you a bit further down. Read well before posting - I meant she was molested from 11. Besides, does the age when this began really make a difference?

So wait, is it only me who thinks there are so many holes in this story ? His wife was in the same house and didnt notice a cellar in their house for 24 years or bother to check whats going on there? Didnt the kids they adopt say anything ?
A 42 year old woman 3 kids ( ofne of them a teenager ) cant over power a 73 year old man and escape?

No punishment is good enough for this kind of atrocities, so many lives have been damaged without repair

The mother of the 42 woman held captive didn't realize there was something suspicious going on in the same building? And obeyed her husband when he told her not to go down there? Was she drugged too?

Puh leez. I don't buy it.

J:

You're almost as ignorant as the 73 year old man is evil.

James. I hope that you get to read this, but it is terrible for you to misunderstand something. She did get jailed at 18, but was sexually molested starting from 11. Read the article and this blog again.

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